När 15-åriga Nour Alsaleh får frågan om vad hon tycker bäst om med sin mamma svarar hon utan att tveka att det är hennes leende. Hon ser i det den styrka som det krävdes att lämna det krigshärjade Syrien och uppfostra sina barn i säkerhet i Storbritannien.
När Chadia och hennes barn tvingades fly från Syrien kunde de bara ta med sig några få saker, men de bar med sig så mycket mer till sitt nya hem i Storbritannien: förhoppningar och drömmar, erfarenheter, traditioner och familjehistorier, motståndskraft och beslutsamhet.
Här intervjuar Chadia och Nour varandra om sina minnen från Syrien, om hur det varit att anpassa sig till livet i Storbritannien och om de förhoppningar och drömmar som de har burit med sig under hela resan.
Följ oss inför årets Internationella flyktingdag för att ta del av fler konversationer om flykt mellan generationer där de ställer varandra frågor och delar med sig av sina förhoppningar och drömmar.
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Chadia: [00:00:00] Okay, I'm going to leave this one rolling as well. Okay.
you you're going to come in from this actually make sense. I just walked into the
Okay. Yeah. Rolling. Do you want to
Yeah. Cool. [00:01:00] Rolling.
Rolling. 10, seven to slide the wall. I've got no red light on that. See about that six days is that wish, but just getting on this and let me know if anything that you can get and you need to move Mike's in when I will do. Okay. Cool. Okay. Yeah. Happy. Good. Yeah. Okay. You, you would know if you want to walk in and have a sit down
We're going to take that one more time. That's perfect. Yeah. Um, we [00:02:00] just need to get focused a bit on the cameras, but so should we try that one more time? And I think if you sit down and then if you ask the first question here and we'll just do the first question, do you see this first one? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that okay? Yeah.
Chadia: Let me just see a pen. Oh yes. I'll give it back to you.
we're still rolling. Still rolling. Okay.[00:03:00]
No. Do you know why you are here
Noor: today? Yes. Uh, I'm here today to share a life and how it was in Syria and, um, the memories in Syria and how it has changed from then.
Chadia: Okay. Tell me about your life.
Cool. That's great though.
yeah, if you can talk as loud as possible. I know it feels uncomfortable. Um, but yeah, just speak as loud. It might be a bit more loud than you're normally comfortable with being here. The sake of the mix. It will make me very happy. Yeah.[00:04:00]
check behind coming
Lovely. Thank you. Um,
Yeah. And this, do you know why we're here today? Yeah. Yeah. All right. I said, we'll do that one more time
straight into it, and then we will see that. So then it will be normal. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's good. Maybe a tiny bit more actually. No, that's good.[00:05:00]
Yeah, that's great. Okay, cool. Everyone happy set. Okay, let's go for it. Shout here. If you could ask your first question be no. Do you know why when I
Noor: hear today? Uh, yes. Uh, so we hit today to share our life, um, and how it has changed from when we were in Syria. Um, yeah, she had the memories. Cool. Um, so tell me about.
Your life growing up in Syria and where it was like,
Chadia: so final question, because I remember lots of things, but, uh, maybe the most things when I was, uh, playing with my, uh, spinning and make lots of something funny playing, uh, [00:06:00] games. And, uh, especially with my brother, we was fighting a lot, but after we make, uh, we go to the shop and buy like a lonely bull and, uh, icecream, was
Noor: it, um, what was your childhood beautiful and like nice.
Chadia: Yes, it was. Yeah, because I was. With my family, with my grand grandparent with, uh, all my, uh, uh, closing fluent. Yeah.
Noor: Well happy, happiest moment memories from
Chadia: Syria. Uh, because, uh, do you know when I was lots of things it once before, very nice, uh, especially with, um, um, maybe when you will be in with your family [00:07:00] around surround that family.
I think you feel happy is it, if you have lots of things you can like speak to your mom or dad, if you have any problems. So,
Noor: well, memory was just you being surrounded by your family and being happy.
Chadia: Um, And you, what do you remember about you? Yeah,
Noor: I was young, but I remember a lot. Um, I remember the food.
Chadia: maybe you’re hungry.
Noor: I am in the beautiful smell of Yasmine. Um, the markets, the people shouting things and their votes. I remember a
Chadia: What is your happiest memory of Syria?
Noor: Uh, I think my there's a lot of [00:08:00] memories. Um, but really when I used to go, um, to live in the village, um, on my own and with my grandparents.
Yeah. And, um, they in the snow, uh, I think that was really nice. And I still remember that. Yeah.
Chadia: That would be two seconds
And I've had the question.
Childhood tobacco to me,
into Baba. Let's dress up.
Chadia: Uh, she'd done. We can get rid of, I hate Patricia
and so between it's really nice, but between questions you can afford to take a bit of a breath. So [00:10:00] like once the. Pause for a second and equally so nice. You know how you're asking more questions in between the questions. That's perfect. So if like anything comes to mind that you want to know more about something that either of you are saying, just jump in.
This is not registered. Is it just, these are just prompts. Feel free to ask more. You said,
uh, I think that when it's on medium, it's on high,
is it definitely noticeable? Uh, we can get around it.
The next one, we get that again. It was an easy one.[00:11:00]
Noor: Yes. Yes. Tell me about when I was a baby. And
Chadia: should we do, what is your happiest memory again? Yeah, I like that question. What is your happiest memory?
Noor: Oh, wait me asking how she's going to ask me.
Chadia: I need to ask
Noor: her. Oh, she's going to ask me.
Chadia: Yeah. Uh, yeah. Okay. That's good. What's your happiest memory of Syria?
Noor: Uh, I go a lot. Um, I think when I first saw the Snow, um, in my grandparents' house and played with the people there and it was really nice. Um, [00:12:00] And also, um, when I used to play with my cousins and when they used to come to the village and we used to all like play with each other and have picnics and it was really under the tree under the trees.
Chadia: Yeah. It was very nice.
Noor: Um, yeah. So tell me about when I was a baby and what was life like for you then
Chadia: when you was your baby, you were a baby. You were very, uh, quiet and I'm very optimistic. Yeah. And your face every time, smiles. And I see the future when I am looking [00:13:00] into your eyes. Uh, I think,
Chadia: uh, why do you think we came to the UK? Uh,
Noor: well question. Yeah. A lot reasons. Um, firstly for safety, of course, um, for a better future in general, because unfortunately in my country we didn't, there was no future for us, so yeah, for a better future.
Chadia: Um, have you spoken to, or that, about how he came to the room?
Noor: Uh, yeah, I think we always speak about how he came, because
Chadia: what did, [00:14:00] what did he tell you?
Noor: Uh, it was tough thing, is he? Yeah, he didn't seem like it was so hard, but the story was hard obviously. Like definitely hard. Um, and even more sad than when you see on the TV, because when the person actually told it to you, it's more sad and yeah.
Um, it's very hard. Um, and also it's really nice that he did all this just to do it for us. Um, yeah. And, um, I'm really thankful for he did. Um, how did you feel when he left Syria and where you.
Chadia: No more.
Noor: Oh, shall I say the story? Like, oh, oh, [00:15:00]
Chadia: not working. Can you just point to exactly where it was and it's on your skin?
I tell you what, turn it, turn it around and stick it onto the material again. It's just rubbing, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not seeing that that's is that okay for you or visually? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. I as just out to get, well, I can't see, it's not too bad. I mean, okay. Let me try that. Sorry. Sorry,
Noor: talk to me again.
Chadia: where are you getting in the minute? Huh? What are you guys [00:16:00] doing? Bronson. Nice. All right. That's good. Thanks. Okay. I will give up. Thank you, Shelby. And ask her again. Can we do that? Have you spoken to your dad about how he came to the UK and what did he tell you again?
I think the cable is coming down. I can just see it on your side.
Noor: Just coming. The cable is just,
Chadia: can you, can you say it? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Because your material is quite soft. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Sorry about.
Nor have you that spoken about, um, how he came to the UK?
Noor: Yes. Um,
Chadia: and [00:17:00] once he did tell you,
Noor: um, he's he told we, me and my brother, Zane, we always like ask him this, like trick to find out cause what we see on the TV. So it was just very hard. And we want to know the story from like, uh, like actual person who had this, like who, who was in this situation obviously.
Um, and he did say it was hard, but, um, he didn't make it feel as it was like a really hard, but when he was saying the story, like how he came on the boat, And how, um, I remember him saying like how there was, they needed someone to like, um, say the food because there was, yeah. Okay.
Chadia: Do you want me to [00:18:00] ask you a moment?
How, how we'll do it
Noor: that way round, just for now he came? Oh
Chadia: no. If you can ask you, have you spoken to dad? Can you what's how do you remember it?
How do you remember how that came
Noor: to the us? Yeah. Um, so I, I remember obviously that was really hard, but, um, how I want to tell me the actual story and like what happened and what made it hard for him?
Chadia: Yeah. You know, he made lots of. Like adventure. I think he liked to safe, uh, to make their children safe.
So he doesn't get about his life. This, it was very scary for me because he tried to, to move around the [00:19:00] front country just to, to help, uh, to help you and your brothers. Yeah. But, um, I think he came with the boat for, from, from darkish. Yeah. And then like, uh, lots of refugee from, uh, Greek to, uh, Serbia or, um, and then he came to Cali and stay about one month.
Yeah. And the try more. 10 or 15, uh, times to come to the UK. He thinks about he's very clever because first he think about the language he thought, oh, my children may be difficult to learn, uh, Germany or like Spanish, or like you think about like, I have two good life, um, [00:20:00] good language, uh sifty country, safe country.
So not easy because he came by Lorry. Yeah. And it was one hour and a half under the lorry. Uh, do you know how much? Our way, so, yeah. Yeah. I think that's, it was hard, but I'm proud of him because he's just looking for safe
Noor: life and that's why I, I will Thank him. Cause he kind of like sacrificed himself.
Just to make us happy. Yeah. Um, how did she feel when you left Syria? And were you ever scared?
Chadia: Actually, I have two things. Sad and Hopi, um, sad.[00:21:00]
if he, if he's just coming around, he [00:22:00] just needs to give you some keys. Oh yeah.
Always come that way.
Noor: um, how did you feel when you left Syria and, um, were you ever scared? [00:23:00]
Chadia: Yeah, I have two things. I'm sad and happy. I'm sad because I leave everything, my home, um, families, um, um, gantry, do you know my city village or on my map? And thinking about the future about you and your son, uh, sorry, your brother. Sorry about Zane.
About you. Uh, and I see the future of you and saying, um, and scary and not finished yet scared because, uh, I think maybe when I came to, they came, maybe I found I would find [00:24:00] different, uh, people or strange and I little bit, uh, I'm thinking above maybe lost too and lost your brother, but I tried to make a good thing to keep you safe.
Noor: Yeah. How difficult was it for you to make the decision to leave Syria?
Chadia: Oh my goodness. Very hard. Yeah. First question you asked me about, um, how I feel about my family, but about this question I fighting with my family to live. So it's worse. It was very big, big challenge because I think with my family with [00:25:00] mother-in-law because they think about me and my husband, maybe my husband died maybe, uh, live with you and Syria, stain, nothing.
So it was very hard. Yeah. Not easy. Yeah.
Uh, north, what do you remember about the time we left Syria? And how did you feel? I, I know you was, you were very,
Noor: no, no, I think it's, uh, now if I leave someone, I would probably cry and like hug them, but back then, I've thought it was like, oh, I'm going for one week or something and I'm returning, I'm going back.
So I was just like, okay, you think
Chadia: like holiday? Yeah.
Noor: I, I, I know it was going [00:26:00] somewhere, but I didn't know. It was like for that long. Yeah. But I was happy to see my dad to see a new world kind of. Um, but now I feel like I feel more sad because I didn't like show much, a lot of feelings when I. Like, I was just feeling happy or like, I feel, I felt like I didn't care a lot about it, but now I'm like, yeah, I didn't know.
Yeah. Um, what did you have to leave behind in Syria?
Chadia: Um, what do you mean?
Noor: Um, like, is it that you left, you left your family, the other, um, you left, what you, or you had, [00:27:00] um, memories. Did you, did you leave stuff behind or
Chadia: not really? Just, I think for me the most important my parents know, I know I lost lots of things during the war, but now I don't care. Just, I need to see my parents.
Noor: Yeah. Yeah. Um, what did we bring with us when he came to the K?
Chadia: Oh goodness. I just, uh, I brought lots of my favorite drink. I thought, I thought maybe I couldn't find meta here, but then I find, so I didn't drink lots of things. Not have clothes. Yeah.
Maybe some [00:28:00] photograph when you
Noor: albums. Yeah.
Chadia: Yeah. Do you remember when you were? Yeah. Yeah.
Um, how did you feel when you got to the K?
Chadia: Um, to be honest, Uh, a little bit different because different way, different language, different people, a different side in Syria, like different side driving, walking. So I need every time my husband, uh, your dad just told me this way, this way, this time. So it looks a bit strange.
So I was a little bit scary. Maybe I couldn't, uh, uh, like, uh, adapt with a new country, new people. Yeah. Um, telling me [00:29:00] what arriving in the UK was like for you. What do you remember?
Noor: Um, well, when I first arrived, yes, I. So my dad, I hugged him so hard. The thing is I still,
Chadia: David, do you remember? It was just the two them about good things in the airport?
Noor: I so say before, when we were, when we were on the way, um, a lot of problems, um, it was, we had to wait like a lot in the airport. No, this one, which one
Chadia: is that? Hey, Hey, does he didn't bring them? Yes.
Noor: So after, when we first arrived, yeah, he didn't bring flowers. It's very bad.
chocolates. They were all melted. [00:30:00] It was really nice, I think. And he said that you are his flower, so, and Zane for good, the package. Yeah. And saying left of all the, our suitcases behind and just spent that. Yeah, and we have to look for them and yeah, I felt really happy. Yeah.
Chadia: Um, what was, uh, what was like for you in the first few months of living in the UK and what do you remember?
Noor: I'm going to be totally honest city. I, I didn't, it wasn't like, why? Imagine you, like, when I came, I was so, oh, I'm going to see like, no, no, no. When I was in Syria, I used to think like, oh, other countries are like, like the roads, the roads are colored. And it's like, why see on the TV, like cartoons, [00:31:00] all colors of the sky is different color.
That's why I saw, um, Obviously, I didn't see that, but I, I didn't really like it when I came in because we lived in another city different than pricing and I didn't really like the city. Um, I was just, I felt it was different cause it wasn't Syria. Like I was like, I don't belong here. And it was just, it was really weird.
Yeah. Um, yeah. Um,
Chadia: are there any memorized memorized for, uh, from when we first in the UK that stand out to you?
Noor: Yeah. Um, well, oh, I remember my dad's cousin cause he, [00:32:00] he, um, uh, picked us up from the airport. I remember how. He we saw, like, because NCO, we don't have, um, bus stops and then he was telling us about how they all stand in a queue.
And I was like, we don't do that in Syria. Just look at my ticket. End of the list. Yeah, I remember that. Um, what kept you going when things got hard and how did you stay so strong?
Chadia: Um, you mean here or in Syria?
Noor: I think in Syria, like when you, when dad left. Yeah. Yeah. How did he say strong?
Chadia: Um, it seemed, it was very hard when your dad left.
Um, because I tried to, to manage everything. Uh, and [00:33:00] especially you and Zane. Yeah. And because I believe. Sometimes with mother-in-law sometimes with my parents. So I try to give to you, uh, to keep you safe, uh, to give you more love because your dad not here and give you more, um, uh, make you a more strong, strong front of your friends because, uh, you feel your dad not here, uh, especially when it come back and every you would, uh, cause they're that coming and your dad not so, yeah, but
Noor: now we are here now, when I think about it, I remember how strong the well.
[00:34:00] I back then. I didn't really care. Cause I saw, oh, you're happy. But then now I'm like, no, you weren't happy because your, you did a lot and
Chadia: yeah. But even though
Noor: I remember your face, just looking really sad thinking, but I remember that you were really happy when she got a call about when my dad had worked two K at night and yeah.
Oh yeah. It
Chadia: was like three o'clock midnight. Yeah.
Noor: That's when I fought, I saw your happy face. Yeah.
Chadia: uh, how have you found that living in the UK? What do you want me to say about you?
It's now [00:35:00] I'm very happy and live though. K's amazing country. Um, but I do miss a lot about Syria because I miss my family. Um, I miss my friends, um, a lot of things. Um, I just miss like
it smell because I think I still, like, I can still smell it. Yeah. It's yeah. I just not sure on this one, I just still smell everything for the food and the nature, so
Chadia: yeah, I'm still angry. I'm still hungry. Okay. What's your, uh, what's your favorite things about our new community and prior to, [00:36:00]
Noor: um, they've, they've, they're the most helpful people I've ever met?
And I think I'm pretty sure was that them, like when we came here, but if they weren't here, they didn't help us. We would probably be a very hard situation right now. And it would, our life would be much harder. So for them, um, we have a good life now and they're the most friendly people to their music.
Um, what were you surprised to learn about the K when we, when you first came here, driving
Chadia: license. Um, but I've been blessed because it's different, different way. Different side. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, language. That's a bit, [00:37:00] not really difficult, but yeah, it's good to have it because it's good to communicate with people.
Yeah. There's a first, first, uh, when I came, firstly, I is good for me to help you. Uh,
Noor: yeah. You came here. I did not know anything. And you are the one who's running
Chadia: everything. Do you remember? I try to just make translate to help you and Zane, but now you don't tell me a lot
just to stay. You can learn a lot.
Um, what way, what were some things people did that made you feel welcome when you arrived in the UK?
Chadia: Um, let's just go with, [00:38:00] yeah. Uh, there, I think that are here, lots of Syrian people, um, and English people, they try to, uh, uh, meet me to, uh, just like, uh, to help me and support my family, uh, to leave in UK and with, um, like translate lots of litter because I didn't use in Syria to have letter or something like that.
And it's very hard, hard, first time to understand about that. Lots of letters. Lots of, uh, yeah, so.
Noor: I think the hardest bit is just all the letters. Oliver I've taught every day, every day.
Chadia: So yeah, I have lots of friends, uh, helped me support me even Syrian or [00:39:00] English and I still have it.
Noor: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chadia: They're amazing.
Noor: um, what, wait, sorry. Um, what have you found the hardest about starting in the UK?
Chadia: Uh, there'll be honest first time. I think I have different, uh, I think English. Before not before, before I think it's hard to communicate with them. It's hard to maybe not helped me. Maybe they take it good. That's about maybe refugee or about, um, uh, maybe [00:40:00] Arabic people or different.
Uh, but now I see the front. Yeah. Most of them very helpful and tried to support me.
Noor: Yeah. Yeah. Do you, do you think that when you first wrote that language would be the hardest thing?
Chadia: Uh, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Because sometimes, uh, and maybe sometimes people misunderstand something because they don't know the meaning.
Maybe sometimes I. Be like something, but in a good way. But I think this bad guy, this is different. Very difficult. Yeah. Not easy. Like my son. Do you remember like Zane in school what's happened? Sometimes someone tried to translate to him with loud, uh, sound. Yeah.
Noor: He [00:41:00] also misunderstood a lot because friends say, say something, he used to say things that they say saying something bad, but fashion
Chadia: when he came crying and angry.
So yeah. It's happy happens. Definitely. No matter what has been the most challenging part for you, you still make
Noor: sure . Yeah, I'm still, but, well, firstly, the schools, I was always thinking about schools, friends. Um, you
Chadia: are silent.
Noor: I was, I was, I was really shy and cause I felt like I don't want to speak as they make fun, make fun of me of the way I speak, whether it's max and like languish in general.
Um, so I was just always shy and that's bad. [00:42:00] That was really challenged to overcome my shyness. And obviously to me, meeting new friends was also very challenging for me. Um, yeah. Um, what has this experience of having to leave home to come to a new country? Taught you?
So the, your experience from leaving home. Um, how, what did it teach you?
Chadia: Um, to be patient? Yeah. Yeah. I have to be patient and everything coming, uh, and I need to hard work to get everything what I need. Yeah. And, uh, [00:43:00] yeah, life's not
Noor: easy. Yeah. That's what I told me. Like, cause John was hot that just shows that life is also hard.
Chadia: Yeah. It's not any hard, but you can get it if you work hard. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe some people have luck. Yeah. But you'll have to work. They still have to,
uh, do you know what the refugee, what, uh, the word refugee mean?
Noor: Yes. Kind of, well, there's a lot of meanings, but to me it means someone having to leave the country. Um, or like, I'm going to say they're forced to leave their country the burns. Yeah. But most people just want to. Yeah. If so someone forced to leave the country because there's no S [00:44:00] there's no more like safety.
Um, just feels like when some, when the country doesn't give you what you want, when your country doesn't give you what you want and you have to leave it. Yeah. I think that refugees
Chadia: like that, I think like a refugee, like children, if you don't give the children what they need or every. Review or maybe go to another
Yeah. I lead my children to our country, but if it doesn't give us, which is our mom country, like home. Yeah. You leave it. Yeah. Yeah. How has your understanding of the word refugee changed for you?
Chadia: I never thought about this word or I [00:45:00] have never think about leave Syria before the war, but when it happened, when that happened, I know.
And I feel about refugee.
Noor: Yeah. Do you think before, what was, well say when you first arrived here, what did, what did refugee mean to you?
Chadia: Yeah, because.
Noor: Is it something like just leaving your country because of this, because there's no safety.
Chadia: Exactly. Yes. Maybe some, sometimes, um, some people leave the country for maybe a bad, uh, natural or something.
Um, natural disasters or environment or something, not just the war. Maybe there are different reasons. Yeah.
I'll just ask you about how [00:46:00] our understanding of the word refugee
Noor: has changed. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.
I was just
Chadia: doing so well by so good. Yeah. Thank you.
Noor: and no, how did it change now? This is still the same meaning.
Chadia: Is everyone happy? Sorry. I'm just checking the bathroom. If you want to ask again when you're ready.
Noor: Um, so has the word refugee changed from what you thought it was like, did it change or is it still the same
Chadia: now? You want me to know? Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I told you before.
I, I never, um, think about this sport because I have never think maybe I [00:47:00] leave Syria as a refugee now, but when I came to the UK as a refugee, I see lots of people get a lift their country for different reasons. Um, because not easy to, to leave your country, your home, your family, everything, but it back.
Yeah. But yeah, no different because, uh, some people think refugee like, oh, some people coming just to, uh, to stay without any reason, because some people in another country don't understand why this bear song coming to here. Yeah.
Noor: So, well obviously they're coming to
Chadia: cause, but no, I feel, I feel about the people.
Noor: countries do you think, say now it's [00:48:00] still the same because for the com they are refugees. They, they live in the country because for, or is it, are there any other reasons?
Chadia: I think we're the most important things. Yeah. Yeah.
Because you will make yourself in a dangerous way before to, to leave your country. Yeah, not easy. Definitely. Yeah. Um, is there anything you want people to know about refugee?
Noor: The first of all, the they're not different from us. Like they're not different from you. I like, um, they still this'll humans. Um, it's just that they carried more so with them. Um, [00:49:00] and they just need more help and more support to, I guess, forget what happened to them.
Chadia: Um, and, and, uh, maybe. They carry lots of sadness.
Yeah. But, uh, yeah. You know, lots of people, they don't know how it's
Noor: difficult. Yeah. I think also we, um, we should make them feel welcome because they come to do to make them feel welcome. So we should be the ones who, you know, you make
Chadia: them feel well, you know, sometimes to just, uh, different things.
Sometimes I told you about your friends, like in school. Yeah. Uh, even English or from another country, they don't really know about how lots of children suffering to find, uh, like food, like chocolate, [00:50:00] like a juice,
Noor: like different.
Chadia: Yeah. But here, lots of things. If I love it for lots of eight different data
Noor: stores, It's not their fault that they don't, but we, um, that they don't understand exactly.
That's why I think it needs to be more educated. Um, it's, it's harder to think about it than to actually live in it. Cause we lived in it. We know how it feels. That's why we're more
Chadia: that's you try sometimes to explain to them. I
Noor: know. I always explained to them and yeah. Yeah. It's hard to understand exactly.
Chadia: yeah, because here's sometimes if they don't find like ice cream with nuts, all, I don't find it. But look, another
Noor: chain. Yeah. [00:51:00] I was, I was sledding in school. We're doing like, um, something about one conflict and then. Line where it says like, but should people complain about the weather and do, you know, know?
And we, we complain about the weather and exactly us, we, our children, like another countries who are suffering from war, they complain about finding food or
Chadia: over something to, to make like more and more. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, this, I think how much do you, do you know about your, our family and our family story?
Noor: Well, in Syria here, just [00:52:00]
Noor: I, I know a lot about.
I know, wheel steering war, um, when wars first started, um, I know it was going to talk about my dad's side. Um, it was, it was really hard because my uncle died. So, um, my, um, my grandma, my mom's mom, she also, like, I just remember how she was because I used to live with them. And I remember how she was like sad.
This person I've ever seen. Cause she also cried and then something happened. She cries, I know my family in Syria. They're like the happiest people ever from the outside, but from the inside, they're just [00:53:00] sad and yeah. Yeah. Amazing family. And they're all wild love about them is they're all together. They never separate, even though it's so big though, with each other, helping each other.
And I love, yeah, I love,
um, can you tell me more about the story of our family?
did you like my comedy or that's funny?
Noor: I T tell us about like me, my brother and my. Uh,
I don't know yet.
You're thinking [00:54:00] about
Noor: your husband,
Chadia: uh, spending had this? I don't know. yeah.
Noor: Can you, can you tell me more about, uh, the story of our family? My dad, he, my brother.
Chadia: Yeah. Uh, first thing I'm glad because my husband, every time with me helped me support me for everything. Uh, he has lots of love for me and for you and for Zane.
And he tried to. Lots of thing, even he feel in or unwell or he's. Uh, he's very, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think also I'm really proud of him and
Noor: um, [00:55:00] most hardworking person I've ever met.
Chadia: Yeah. Yeah. Just, he liked to be, he liked to see you and your brother and me every time, happy and smile. He doesn't like to see me sad or every time said you have to smile.
Don't thinking everything. Yeah. Go leave it. Everything. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm really proud of you and saying, because you working hard, you study a lot and you, uh, How did the Wright center, we are working hard just for you. And so I'm really proud of you. I'm a glad to have like, uh, you and saying, I love you[00:56:00]
even sometimes you'll make some trouble
Noor: still learning. Yeah.
Chadia: Uh, can you tell me any more about the story of your family? No. Sorry. That's fine. Next year. Next question. Uh, what's your favorite things about me? Oh,
Noor: oh, I love your, um, first of all, I love your smile. Uh, your smile gives me hope. It gives, I think without you, my dad would probably not have taken the step to like leave country, I think, without you, um, your, an amazing strong woman who yes.
Um, [00:57:00] you never give up and you're an amazing for me and my brother. You're the you're amazing teacher in life. Yeah. And very hard too.
Chadia: Thank you.
Noor: Um, um, what's your favorite thing about me? Hmm.
Chadia: Ah, about you? Yeah, to be honest, you are very strong lady. Yeah. You try to be. The first part of everything you don't like to, to be behind.
Um, and you listen, um, you are very quiet. Yeah. And you understand the life. Yeah. Yeah.
Noor: I think, um, [00:58:00]
Noor: my life wasn't like that, um, or if the things that happen didn't happen to me, like all the stuff, like then I don't think I would be the same person. Like I don't think I would be, I would understand life a lot.
Maybe that's what I think. Um, yeah.
Um, what do, what do we do to keep us Syrian heritage?
Chadia: Um, sometimes I drink mud every
Noor: day. Yeah. That's
Chadia: yeah. And I try to cook, uh, like Syrian food every day and we still have launched like same time, four or [00:59:00] five. O'clock the Bose, uh,
Noor: we, sorry. We also still like, cause you know how like, um, some people children here or like my age, they not a lot, not everyone, but most of them, they just go out every day with their friends and you know, but I think us, we still like always together.
Yeah. Like. If I had to go out, they want to have, but we just choose you to hang out with,
Chadia: this is your choice.
Noor: I feel like most English people not, not sound too, but most people who live here or who grew up here, they are more with the France. Yeah. I feel like I'm more with, yeah. I think in Syria, the most important thing is family.
Exactly. And we still have that relationship. Exactly. Yeah. That's what that's good. [01:00:00] Yeah.
Um, what qualities the, your parents pass on to you and what did you want to pass on to me?
Chadia: It's like my mom, I'm good cooking. She said she's a good cook. Yeah. I know you.
Noor: But you can pass it to me, hopefully.
Chadia: So my mind, very quiet and patient.
Noor: Sorry. And also, um, she's very,
Noor: she's like, um, she hide stuff. She, like, you don't say a lot. You're very like
Chadia: she could manage the, uh, the house or something.
Yeah. At home she could manage everything. [01:01:00] Yeah. Like make something for future. Not everything like for today. Yeah. Yeah.
Noor: Yeah. I think do you, um, yeah. Do you see, and you'll feel parents in me.
Chadia: I think, um,
maybe yes. Yes. Like I think like you are like my mother, my friends, my sister, everything, knowing everything for me. I don't have any like, uh, close family, like lost to me. Yeah. But you, everything for me. Yeah.
Noor: Yeah. That's why I think like you are my best friend. I have [01:02:00] no other friends in here.
Chadia: Yeah. Yeah.
And Zane, like I know my son, but I think they make big control for me.
Noor: Yeah. He's very, he's very controlled with
when did. Um, when did your love of cooking stopped?
Chadia: After when I have money,
Noor: when he got married? Yeah. Yeah.
Chadia: True. You, you told him? Yeah, because before I never tried to cook, so yeah. Wow.
Noor: Um, can you tell me more about volunteering during the pandemic?
Chadia: Yeah. I tried to do something good during the pandemic because I feel, um, lots of people needs help and I don't like to, just to stay at home.
Yeah. Don't, [01:03:00] don't that think? What, what did you do? Uh, I try to help old people to cook, make like dishes for, uh, all people or vulnerable people. Yeah. Uh, I work with the small team, uh, sometimes once a week, sometimes twice. And make a different meal every time. Yeah.
Noor: Yeah. Fine. I am pleased to bring us some home and the very delicious, um, lied to, do you want to start fall interfering?
Chadia: I think I'm here. It's very good opportunity. And to have a good qualification and communicate with people and you will make something to help because lots of people, when I came help me, I try to help people. Yeah. Like, because I find lots of people have me without any things. [01:04:00] So I, I, I like to help people.
Uh, what do you want to be when you grow up and why?
Noor: Uh, I want to. Well, I wanted to be an accountant first. I've like already planned. Uh, I wanted to be an accountant, um, um, along with being a business woman because I love maths and I really enjoy it. And also it's um, oh, you always think of the future and what works best for the future.
And I think this type of job is really good for the future. Um, and also like, I, I feel like being a business woman is being [01:05:00] someone very strong, um, and have having a lot of knowledge. And that's why I love, I love being smart, strong, independent. Good-looking good-looking yeah. What were your hopes or dreams for me?
Chadia: Oh yeah. Just be copy for you. I like to see your on the good life. Good health first, the things. Yeah. And what do you want to be happy and good education. First things and maybe good life with good husband with children. Like what you say to,
Noor: yeah. Um, what are you most proud about your life? [01:06:00] What are you most proud off?
Chadia: You're unsaying and my husband. Yeah. Um,
Noor: what are you grateful for?
Chadia: Uh, I am here. Yeah. Uh, leave my country because I think if I stayed in Syria, I couldn't see you like in a good, good education now. Yeah. This is the most things for me. Yeah.
Noor: Um, um, um, yeah, I'm just grateful for being here and, um, for having, for being educated, um, for having a good, um, for having good, um, friends, like people who are here.
Yeah. [01:07:00] Grades for everyone who helped. Yeah.
Chadia: Uh, what do you think about the state of the world? What would you change?
Noor: I always think like itchy, it will get better, better, but it's not might get better for one country. But then for the other country it's going to get worse. And thing is when country isn't a bad state. All the countries around are going to be in a bad state. And I,
I would just like to change people's understandings of what life is. And that I asked
Chadia: you a question, sorry. Maybe in future, you think, do you think about, um, [01:08:00] maybe to make something or to write something about refugee? Yeah,
Noor: I think because you are as a refugee. Yeah, I would. I think my, I told you this one's my, my dream.
To work for the U N or to be like part of the team, because as a refugee, um, of me not helping them, I had helping other refugees doesn't really work for me. Cause like I was a refugee. I know what it feels like, so I should help them. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah. And the thing that I would want to change about the world is definitely, and how people think like they sh S a lot of people think of money.
Is everything [01:09:00] exactly having power? Not everything it's they just need most, some of them need to understand that life's not about that. It's about just enjoying yeah.
Um, how have you, how have people will come to you in the UK?
Chadia: Uh, I told you they are, they were very good and support helpful. I know all the people, not the same, but every one make as you can. Yeah. Because everyone have things to, to give or to support or to do it even by maybe like here, when I came, maybe, uh, they help my family with a benefit with like, um, bank food bank, uh, lots [01:10:00] of thing.
Uh, after, when I, uh, when I find a job and my husband, I try to manage my life, but. Uh, yeah.
Noor: Um, and also I I'm grateful that I'm in this country. I think this country is just amazing and it taught me a lot of things. Um, yeah, it's, it's just very helpful and that the people are also amazing. Yeah.
Chadia: And you'll be able to just say, what do you like about brighton?
Noor: Yeah, so it's a PK is an [01:11:00] amazing country. Um, Brighton where I live is the best, the tip for free, because. E like, it kind of reminds me of Syria, like, well, I used to live like it's nature,
Chadia: um, different people, different religions, religions.
Noor: Yeah. It's nice. Um, um, other than that, I also love the sea. Um, I think whenever I go walk by the sea from, I always just that's when I, when I forget everything, just living kids, seeing the sunset.
Yeah. Um, um, I love the people. So the schools scores is nice. Education is amazing. Yeah. Yeah.
Chadia: what have you learned in [01:12:00] this conversation?
Noor: A lot about my family. How you felt, um, when you on Syria and also, um,
we opened up more to each other and I, now I know no more. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, I know, like, I know you more than when I didn't see her. Cause I didn't know how you felt now. I know a lot, um, I know how hard it was for you and my dad. Yeah.
Um, so the theme for this year's world refugee is that refugees bring more than they carry. What does that mean to you?
Chadia: [01:13:00] Um, I pink you and saying. This is the most important things for me. And I got it up fish. Yeah. Just things gone. Yeah. For me, you are the most
Noor: important. Yeah. And like also that refugees bring more of
Chadia: sad sadness, different life, different things thing.
Noor: They probably bring
Chadia: memorials, bring memories and waiting for a
Noor: future. They carry nothing because there's nothing to be carried for them other than just the thoughts of the future and what what's going, what life is going to be like
Chadia: exactly. Like something [01:14:00] like, um, oh, can I say. She would tell you what you don't know above.
Noor: They carry sadness that, but also hope for that sadness to go when they arrive here or any other country. Um, they hope for all this bad memories to go. Um, and just to live a happy life,
Chadia: hopefully. No. What would you think your mom has brought so community
Noor: as well? Like thinking about how she's holding Ted at school, what do you think your mom's brought to the UK?
Um, so what have you brought to Brighton? Because you're a Fiji. What did you bring with you to the community?
Chadia: No, I think you do you say, if you say what you think your mom's brought?
Noor: Oh, shit. Sorry. Should I [01:15:00] sorry. So I think, um, you brought a lot to the community, first of all, it's you, your skills in cooking, um, and, um, your knowledge about refugees, um, your knowledge about give them knowledge about war Syria or other countries are unfortunately involved still for now.
Um, and same for me. Like I always tell my friends,
Chadia: I do see some people said, oh, I live my country, my family, I give them some . You can do everything. I not inside. I'm very sad, but I tried to get, give them
Noor: when. Yeah. So when someone used here. Do you remember, like when you first came [01:16:00] here, so you give them the hopes, that's all going to be fine.
Yeah, that's definitely. Yeah. Yeah.
Chadia: Thank you.
Noor: Thank you. It was great
Chadia: conversation. Yeah. I hope you like, you're like my answer. I love that. Yeah, this
Noor: is true. Not, yeah. And thank you for telling me about refugees and opening up, um, what it's like to be a refugee and yeah,
Chadia: but I still hope in the future to make something I
Noor: hope for the future, that there will be like story.
They will no longer be refugees.
Chadia: Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully yes. Every one, uh, live in peace or that country as well.
Noor: Yeah, definitely.
Chadia: And Shediac you just ask, know what you think [01:17:00] she's brought to this? Could you actually, sorry, could you tell us what you think naught brings to the community? That makes sense?
What do you think? No. What do you bring more for the community?
Noor: Cause I said like
Noor: well, I booked and I shipped.
Chadia: Yeah. Yeah. Well you brought for refugee. Yeah,
Noor: no, no. Uh, what she brings to her friends and the family, like all those like good qualities that you see in, uh,
Chadia: uh, and that it's
Noor: such a blessing, but other people around, what are those qualities? What does she bring to the people around her?
Chadia: Uh, I think, no, she is very good. And especially when we go to meet [01:18:00] with, um, in community Syrian community special, uh, she tried to help, she loved children. She tried to help children along and sing and play with them even they are, she's older. That is a big gap with them, but she tried to give him hope and fun and play with them and make them happy.
Uh, and I know she's very kind person and that's great. Can you say, as in talking to you more say, say you, ah, oh yeah, yeah. Sorry. Yeah.
Yeah. And remember when you,
um, when was. Where we, when we was meeting with, um, with community. Yeah. [01:19:00] And especially like Christmas time or eat or something meeting in the summer, uh, you try to help people to help. Children's try to play with them and throwing and sometimes ditch, uh, especially when and your children coming, try to teach them English and the Arabic, uh, singing with them dancing sometimes.
Yeah. Yeah. Nice. And still do. I'm still
Chadia: And like, do you remember sometimes drink a special chocolate or
Noor: sweet or something?
Chadia: Yeah, the microphone I'm happy. Yeah.
Noor: Yeah. You want to ask each other
Chadia: employment wasn't competent?[01:20:00]
yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, so in the future, um, oh right now, while you planning for the future,
Chadia: um, future is hard. Yeah. But every time thinking about, so, uh, for you, uh, and Zane as well, uh, maybe I like to see you and a good education is the most things. I like to, because you live as a refugee, you have to do something good to show to show them, uh, [01:21:00] even if you can do lots of things, even you are refusing.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, and I hope and good health still. Good. Yeah. Let's see. Yeah.
Uh, it'd be like ask the
Noor: question. Do you have
Yeah. How are you doing? Do you want a break or you just had a couple more questions
Noor: we covered
Chadia: for a sec.
Okay. Um, when or this one?[01:22:00]
um, can you say, oh, sorry, one second.
Yeah. Okay. Thank you.
Noor: This is Corey and a gift.
Chadia: Oh, okay. Uh, I Mumbai when my husband lived, uh, Syria, it was very hard. It was very hard decision to leave. But, uh, because, uh, we lost my house. We lost lots of things and try to find the good life safe the [01:23:00] life for my children. Uh, so then decided to my husband to leave and come to buy that Turkish and, uh, Turkey, then two Greek by boat.
He come, he came by boat. It was very hard journey and complicated to.
Noor: Okay. Um, also want to say something I, I want to say. Um, so when I was young, I remember how. Like before war was all good and stuff. And then you opened it in a gym and I, um, and, um, it was new. We thought it was like, like a big new business.
You can have a good [01:24:00] life and everything's going to be good until that day. I still remember when war started and I remember we, we just opened the gym. Um, and then there were people shouting saying like, go, go, you have to go have to leave. And then you got out, you were trying to lock the door. You hope you help.
My brother's hand Mike and my hand with one arm and the other one trying to lock the door. And yet I still remember that moment now. I feel like, yes, we should have left Syria because. I feel like I can't remember a lot from my childhood. All I remember that I lived in a good village, but I feel like I should remember more like good school.
Um, my, my having my own house. Cause I don't remember [01:25:00] anything about that. Um,
Chadia: yeah. Yeah. But they know first because my family doesn't like for my husband to leave, I'm not I'm Ima my mother-in-law because we think maybe something could have been not really good. Like maybe like my husband, something happened during the journey and especially with the board, like 50 person and more with small board.
Noor: you've also scared that if he like arrives there, he might take like some people take six years. Um, to bring the family. So it also, we're scared of that.
Chadia: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of things like make like difficult things to, to thinking about.
Noor: We also left because the problems that happened with my dad and his work, like at the end, it's like nothing worked for him.
Chadia: [01:26:00] I used his work and
Noor: I remember when we used to sleep. And I remember when he comes from work, I used to heat talk about like, about his work and about leaving. Um, I still remember like saying that we have to leave or not. Life is bad now. Yeah. I still remember.
Chadia: Yeah. Um, how's it Dudley? How is it on life change when the
Noor: war started?
Yeah. Um, so how did I life changed when the war started?
Chadia: Uh, completely changed. Yeah, completely 100%. Yeah, because before the war, it was everything. If I have been, I have, we have like house guard, good job. Me [01:27:00] and your dad, uh, and joining the good school, everything, but during the war and at the first the war, uh, uh, my, uh, uh, my brother died and it was very, he was very sad, all family, and we try start all the problems or the, uh, families.
Um, and I lost my house
Noor: destroyed. We lost it, we left, but we thought we're going to return.
Chadia: And then, yeah. And just, I leave my house for maybe two or three days, but I have never go back again. Yeah. So yeah. Lots of things
Noor: do you think it's [01:28:00] changed to who you are, like the person you are? Why did it change the way you think?
Chadia: Yes. Yeah, I didn't, I never think about travel before. I never think to leave my country before because everything was available. But during the war, uh, you have to find safe life. If you have families, especially children. Um, and every time. I was scary. If my children go out, maybe not come back or my husband go to work.
Maybe not come back every time. Every moment I was very scary. So yeah, it was very hard during the war, so I, because I decided to leave my country. Yeah. Yeah.
That's amazing. [01:29:00] How, how hard was it to make that decision? Yeah.
Noor: So how hard was it for you to make the decision?
Chadia: Uh, it is big decision. Yeah, because make me a big responsibility. Yeah. Front of my face. My mother-in-law children.
Noor: Sorry to interrupt. But also because it was you who, who liked that decision, who made the decision for my dad to leave and who the suede tempted, if that's why you had all the responsibility, if anything happens to us or exactly.
Chadia: Yeah. Yeah. So it's just not easy. Yeah. I hope to find a good decision, I think. Yes.
Noor: Yeah. I think [01:30:00] the decision you make, it was hard. You didn't know what's going to happen, but turned out to be good.
Chadia: Yeah. But I try every time I try to be happy front of the people because I don't like them, but inside I was very worried and scared.
Noor: even when my dad was in Syria already scared. Exactly. Uh, now he's not with you. Well, when he wasn't with you, you were obviously going to be more scared. Yeah.
Chadia: Amazing. Thank you. And then, um, I think that it'd be really helpful if you could just, um, explain on camera, how, uh, your dad and your husband left first and how that works. So what was the situation? You could explain how that happened. You made the decision to leave and then he went first
Noor: and then you followed, if you went first,
Chadia: if you could just take us through how that
Noor: happened to ask the question of, um, yeah, like asked.[01:31:00]
So, um, I want to ask, like, I know that you left because of there's no safety, but why did my dad really also want to leave?
Chadia: Um, because he met, uh, there is lots of trouble and. Uh, manage the life during the war. And, uh, he lost his job. Um, also he lost his brother, so he find everything like sad front of him.
And I tried to persuade him to, to leave it's to find,
Noor: sorry. So I do also, um, when he came here, he, um, even like, it's really, [01:32:00] really, really sad that he left his family. Um, they came here, um, one of his brothers already died. Yeah. And then he comes here and then after a few years, another one dies owner. And
Chadia: who, who feel more
Noor: sad, especially that he didn't see him.
Exactly. It just really angers me. Like I'll probably love refugees have that happens to them. Like they don't, they leave thinking, oh, we'll see them later, but then they just don't. Yeah. Yeah. It's really bad. He, he lost all his jobs
Chadia: and yeah, he came first when we decided we have this decision, big decision to leave the Syria and he tried to find like safe country.
He doesn't, he didn't know about fish country. He wants to come. Just, he need [01:33:00] to find a safe country. Yeah. Yeah. When I come to Turkey and, uh, come by the boats, like I think maybe 50 bears on or more in small boats, like the Johnny ticket, maybe one hour. I think when our. And not, we could, we couldn't like communicate with him by phone or anything.
Um, for two days, I think, and this, this time it was very, uh, worried. I was very worried because I was in the most responsibility and my parents and my parents, my sister-in-law, they said he didn't call you yet. Like two, three days maybe something happened. So I was very [01:34:00] sad. And when
Noor: the day,
Chadia: yeah, but when he called me first time, I'm fine.
I am in Greek now. Okay. Yeah. So it, little bit, I was more happy, more happy. Yeah. But not his. Yeah. Make this journey not finished yet. So I think they could about one month to come to galley. And how did you hear, um,
Noor: did you start thinking about leaving Syria or threading into leave Syria when he lost his job or when, like there was nothing left for us
Chadia: or, yeah, exactly.
Because everything become expensive. We couldn't pay for your school. Uh, we couldn't pay for my rent house sometimes and yeah. [01:35:00] And make your safe, do you know sometimes I send you to another village? Yeah. I couldn't leave you at townhouse house. Just, I need to take same to school. Yeah.
Um, I think second missing is if you can explain, like why, why your
Noor: husband went bust,
Chadia: even if you're saying, you know, you know, your dad died, but
Noor: he has to be first, but we have
Chadia: to stay behind and we have to wait. And how long you were sort of separated. Um, so just, just so we can get, we can
Noor: expect you really covered why and how perfect, but just need that explanation of, so why did my dad go fast [01:36:00] and not us?
Um, or why didn't we all go together?
Chadia: Because not enough money, I have money. Just auntie borrow some money to go just for one pair. Yeah, and I couldn't like he, uh, he, he could go, but I, you, you were very younger, not safe to go by boat or to make this big Jordan better than four. Yeah. So he decided, no, I will go first.
And then if something good happen, I will make run. You want to come? Yeah. So it takes, um, I think six months or more, six to seven months, [01:37:00] uh, without him and to come to the UK and meet him. I
Noor: think we're lucky because, um, was really.
Chadia: Yeah. And maybe more pasta than more, more than some. Yeah. And he, maybe some people came by plane or flying or petite and make big journey and her journey.
Noor: the, yeah. It's because of he liked money and he didn't have money. Yeah,
Chadia: exactly. Yeah. And shot yet. What were those six months like for you? Describe how do you remember those? Six months? Oh my goodness.
Noor: How do you remember the six months? Did you feel like it was long or short?
Chadia: Very long. Yeah. And, uh, like a dream, but the dream is like a nightmare.
Yeah. Because, uh, maybe no [01:38:00] sleep. Just thinking about what's happened after. Yeah. Um, You are with me and, but front of you, I try to be happy and make something good. And just to, I don't like to feel like sad or my dad not here. Uh, yeah, not easy. It was very sad, but it was the good day when I can, when I went to Lebanon, uh, for visa and then me above the appointment,
Noor: the thing is it was kid, but it was also a bad day.
Yeah. Because we had to, something happened, but like the luck was with us. So we got through it. Um,
Chadia: yeah. So [01:39:00] we are here now. We're here now. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Let's just a couple of questions now. It is just reading the actual questions again, if that's okay. Um, so the first one is from you to shadier this first one again, how much, how much do you know about our family and our family's story?
Yeah. So if you could just read that one again.
You've got that there too, but is there just so the Greenland action, how did you feel? No, next one. This one, whatever you want. We're just going to do a couple of questions, do wrong. Yep. Go for it. Yeah. Um, and how much do you know about our family and our family story? Great. Brilliant. And then [01:40:00] it's. This on the third page, have you spoken to your dad about how he came to faith?
What did he tell you?
Noor: Are you sure?
Chadia: Have you spoken to your dad about how he came to the UK? Yeah. Have you split? Thank you. Yeah. Have you spoken to your dad? How about he came to the UK and what did he tell you?
We just had a bit of background noise. We might have to do that one more time if that's all right. Just do that question. Sorry. There's just,
uh, have you spoken to your dad? How about,
Noor: sorry about tap.[01:41:00]
Chadia: Yeah. Have you speak, uh, spoken to, to your dad about how he came to the UK? What did he tell you?
And then the next ones, how have you found living in the UK shoddy, as you could ask them that
Noor: she just, how have you found living in the UK? Um,
Chadia: okay. How he had living at
Noor: home, how have you found
Chadia: Panasonic? Let's see, uh, how he found living in daycare. How, how are you, um, uh, difficult was where is it? How did you have living?
Maybe it's. Well [01:42:00] that's three. Oh,
Noor: how he had found it. Um, it's two, two. Um, how have you found living?
Chadia: All good.
Whenever you're ready. Yeah. How have you found living? No.
How have you found it living in the UK? What do you miss about Syria?
Lovely. Speak with that. Is everyone good? Yeah, that's good. Okay. We'll cut there. Thank you so much.